@drmouse Good point! And no, it’s not as simple as Pirelli saying they can do 50 laps so 40 laps is 20% left. F1 is complicated, but don’t show us any of it on TV, real fans already understand everything! The basics really should have the screen less cluttered so you can simply see what is going on. Follow every twist of the 2018 season, with live and on demand coverage of all Formula 1® races. Sorry, I dont buy it. I’m a computers nerd and F1 nerd, I need that stuff. The “probability of overtaking” graphic is terrible for me, it removes all the antecipation and emotion of the situation. GeeMac (@geemac) 31st October 2019, 8:41. Jimmi Cynic (@jimmi-cynic) 1st November 2019, 3:43. Some of the verbatim quotes are confusing. “They know what happens when there is a change of tyres or blisters or graining. Ben Rowe (@thegianthogweed) 30th October 2019, 15:20. If that car has green or yellow tyres, then we know there’s only a small chance of the chasing driver being able to overtake, but if the tyres are “red” then we know an overtake might be on. They give us usefull and more specific information like sector times, gaps etc.. Intentionally terrible tires. But these overtaking probabilities are just silly in my opinion. Both subscription types give you access to Live Timing. Those overtake probability and tyre wear tables are just silly…just let me watch the race. Sometimes there is too much data that we need to explain.”. To paraphrase Coultard-the numpty who put this together is obviously a gamer. With incisive commentary from Alex Jacques and special guests, including unique insight from team strategists, it’s your deepest dive into each grand prix weekend. But then again I have the live timing, so I am also not against it if people like those graphics. “We consulted with broadcasters, with commentators, [asking] what it is ‘you struggle to tell – undercuts, overcuts, these are famous ones?’ So those were our first ones. Multiple streams of the race are currently restricted.What makes kinda no sense it that you can indeed watch the training on multiple devices, connected to different VPN Servers. For example, say someone has just come out of the pits and is chasing a driver ahead, we could then see how worn the tyres are on the car being chased. “We have these incredibly clever people [in the teams] trying to make the sport really complicated, and it’s our job to uncomplicate it in a way. Would football fans not complain about that? You know what’s funny in all this story? Knowing in advance what’s going to.happen, even if it’s a prediction (and they’ll be trying to make.it even more accurate) is wrong! Someone above said it’s a good thing that it’s designed by a gamer and DC is just old for saying that, but I cannot disagree more. I’ve stopped watching the practice sessions because of how childish him and Anthony Davidson are – I know there’s not much going at times on but it’s like listening to a couple of teenagers sometimes. Bad data is worse than no data at all. Schumacher first retired in 2006, 13 years ago. I like some of those new graphics but don’t show us what we can see. By RACER Staff Now we just have a huge ugly box on the left of the screen that the cars keep driving behind. I actually like all the information! i’m just finding a lot of this stuff taking away from the unpredictable feel of racing and i as knowledgeable/long time fan really would prefer to have the option to not have to have the race spoiled by it which is honestly what i feel its doing. Liberty is doing nothing to get more viewers/fans! With so much to choose from in terms of who to watch, listen in on and follow on data, you’re thinking you’ll miss something, right? F1 Live Grand Prix Streaming Service F1TV If you're seeing this message, that means JavaScript has been disabled on your browser , please enable JS to make this app work. Etc. I don't work for F1 or have any relationship to them. Basically artificial intelligence churns the data required to create the graphics? Isn’t it better to report directly from the sources instead of giving statistics wrongly calculated? Currently we’re only being told how good or bad the tyres are, but there’s no reason why it can’t be used to make predictions. This became a talking point during the Japanese Grand Prix when a new Tyre Performance graphic was first aired. “I also have a graphics team; my role is very much to make it editorially relevant.”, Advert | Become a RaceFans supporter and go ad-free. Considering they power most of the internet, one wouldn’t need F1 to be impressed by them. No matter how wrong or pointless it is? If the secret to Lances success is is his late breaking then lets …. What is unique to Formula 1 that other sports can’t do?”, “But we haven’t actually nailed down exactly which ones and how many, and it’s something we’re actually in communication with at the moment.”, “We’ve got 90 broadcasters in 200 territories in multiple languages, so we have a bigger task than most sports. Tommytintop (@petegeo) 30th October 2019, 22:10, Webbo (@webbo82) 30th October 2019, 12:36. When the acclerating-braking bars were first introduced ~15 years ago it was actually very cool. Some charts on how the gap between two cars is reducing would be more indicative than a bunch of numbers. I personally love the graphics and the data, so I’m glad they were introduced. I would understand it better sometimes with just the driver order and nothing else. But don’t worry. “It’s not like football where you’ve got one ball, one pitch and 20 players. We get feedback on those graphics. ), I hate not having my tablet set up, because I end up stuck with only the information they deign to show us >:-|, drmouse (@drmouse) 30th October 2019, 16:13. I can work that out for myself by looking at lap times or visuals is the directors actually show the right cars at the right times. Admittedly, some of the riskier and controversial options on the table, such as introducing a highlights reel half way through the race, did not make… Vanity? Don’t spoil it for the viewer, but rather use it to inform the broadcaster that something is coming up, and without spoiling it, help them show us that live instead of showing them showing Toto 50 times a race. Hero’s and Villains? John H (@john-h) 30th October 2019, 13:18. David BR (@david-br) 30th October 2019, 13:39. I myself preferred the graphics from a few years ago where you had a narrow discrete line at the bottom of the screen showing 5 drivers positions at a time, then ever 5 – 8 seconds or so, showing the next 5 and so on. Again, use the data to make a better viewing product – get the broadcasters to show the things you’re predicting is going to happen. On demand and on-the-go. Your “gatekeeping” attitude is fine is you think F1 should be an exclusive club that doesn’t need to cater to most people. I’d rather see a peak speed per straight and apex per corner side-by-side. The only graphics you need is the live timings. If you connected another display and it isn't showing in Settings, select Start > Settings > System > Display > Rearrange your displays, then select Detect. However, just don’t cry about the decreasing number of fans in the future. Now do I need to be told Hams tyre wear is down to 30% when it clearly isnt. After the flag I switched to F1 TV Pro on my … Half of it is shockingly buggy and inaccurate anyway. Mercedes improving but Red Bull builds momentum, Norris downplays McLaren threat after showing more than rivals, Mercedes hit harder by 2021 rule changes than Red Bull - Wolff, […] Read The Entire Article By RACER Staff Here. The tyre graphics are pure guess work. We still have the gap not shown when it matters, because they enlarge the cells of drivers involved. See more as you live stream all Formula1® sessions, F2, F3 and Porsche Supercup series. F1 TV Pro also brings you the most in-depth access to live timing. if a car by some chance had less than 95% of grip the pace would drop several seconds a lap. The British racing green team which showed F1 how not to do branding, Motorsport benefits us all in surprising ways – it should shout that fact from the rooftops, Read more about Dieter Rencken, find all their articles and get in touch with them, Find out more about RaceFans and contact us here, Become a RaceFans Supporter to hide this ad and others. I have watched F1 since the late 90s and personally loving the advancements in the screen info since then. “That’s what we agreed with broadcasters. * Free trial period begins Aug. 11, 8am ET/5am PT, and closes Aug. 17, 11am ET/8am PT. Onboard cameras have proliferated and roaming cameras follow Lewis Hamilton’s every scoot through the paddock. You know, what the car is doing, where it is, tyre drop off. Really interesting, but one piece of feedback. The rolling speed graphics are largely pointless when comparing rivals. But projection enters the realms of the race managers (sorry folks, nothing personal). What is F1 TV? if f1 are going to insist on pushing this data onto the screens then they need to start making a secondary broadcast available that has less information, maybe only provide what we had 3-4 years ago with the timing and some of the telemetry such as what we have on the halo hud. “Sky’s head of F1 Scott Young…” Not sure about Mol though! I have never heard of a fan who stopped watching, cause they couldn’t figure out what degredation is or how strategy work. I’d like it to show current tyre use and pit stops permanently too. They need to paste glitter as the racing is often dreadful – something to keep the youngsters bedazzled. Sonics (@sonicslv) 31st October 2019, 0:12. #$!%#! In addition to real-time leader boards, there’s a new lap segment feature to see beyond the traditional sector times, and the ability to compare drivers’ lap times against one another. “We’re very lucky: You don’t hear from football players what is said on the pitch. Paul (@frankjaeger) 31st October 2019, 1:05, Get the basic graphics right first. “We have a biggish number [for] next year, setting that against what haven’t we done before, what is really difficult to do? “You can either do it with a simple graphics package or you can do it with complexity, and it’s up to F1 to find that balance,” he adds. But tires will get worse, which means that information is also not a good representation of the upcoming scenario. Some data I find interesting, like max speed, brake and throttle (not sure how accurate that is). ($27/year from F1TV to be exact). We follow one lap fully, and two others via the timing below. To be honest I run the F1 live app while I’m watching the race on TV. Required fields are marked *. Too much information and bad quality information. F1 itself can be watched from any (even multiple) of the twenty drivers' points of view, or any of the other camera angles, some exclusive to the F1 TV Pro platform. I don’t see the point of it. Could there, though, be a danger of graphics overload? There is so much on the screen now that it is starting to look unrealistic and more like a game. GeeMac (@geemac) 30th October 2019, 13:48. as the first poster,i want to know if f1 2018 will have split screen but a response from developer,not users . For an expert perspective, the Pit Lane Channel is a multi-view experience featuring the best of onboard cameras, most relevant stats, such as potential overtaking, car performance and weather predictions, as well as the main broadcast stream for all track sessions. One of the admittedly rare bonuses of watching on RTL nowadays (since Sky fully took over in the UK) is that I don’t have to put up with Croft shouting his head off. David BR (@david-br) 30th October 2019, 13:41. Effectively AWS and his team took all the parameters to create a huge algorithm, then tested it for 12 weeks using different races for accuracy and visualisation. They will highlight those 2 on the timing bar on the left, which removes the timing. Your email address will not be published. @david-br Totally agreed, but there is a time for this and it is in the build up to the first race. If you subscribe to our SLING Orange service you watch on one screen at a time. What about the future? Limits on replacement parts without penalties. Where F1’s early single-channel broadcasts travelled from circuit to lounges in analogue form, current signals rely on digital transmission via complex hi-def infrastructures. Your use of this website constitutes acceptance of our Privacy Policy and Terms & Conditions. Or you can select Extend- if you want the TV to act as a second screen. However, of late, I get a bit annoyed at the double whammy of a graphic being splashed on and Crofty rambling on about it (never failing to mention AWS). I know I couln't believe my luck. Graphic image screenshot (c) Formula One Management Ltd. Screen 2 is made up of two sections. budchekov (@budchekov) 30th October 2019, 13:57, “I’d like it to show current tyre use and pit stops permanently too”. We did it through the radio, and after the race, you know, he had a go at his engineers. I can’t imagine we’ll see it in Australia within 4 years, but if I was Foxtel, I’d be working out a way to offer it as an add-on for subscribers – I for one would pay more. “But just degradation is very hard to see. Beyond the grand prix weekend, F1 TV’s huge F1 archive (with every grand prix going back to 1981 available to watch on demand) and exclusive original programming, including “Chasing the Dream” focused on the next generation of drivers, mean your F1 fix is only ever a click away. I recall Hamilton saying his tires were gone while the graphic presented them as impecable (like 80%). As journalists I think you have the right to clarify what has been said if the interviewee’s sentence structure is confusing. When they start talking about “Telling stories” I cannot help but think WWE here we come. I shall at least say though that “hard core fans” do not need a clip-art image of a car with differing colours of tyres in order to know the likely tyre wear of the driver involved. It was a huge task, but not to be misunderstood that it’s a simple laps versus tyre life [representation]. Formula One’s television audience has reversed by 5% this year driven by its decision to move the auto racing series onto Pay TV in Italy, its second-largest market. You can, and much more, by personalizing your F1 TV Pro viewing experience. “My thought is ‘don’t give us too much data, don’t try to be too precise because there will always be people who understand the sport, who have been watching it for many years and know what tyre wear is. I was just testing it out for a family member. So we set ourselves a goal, you know, we had a great story in Monaco with [Lewis] Hamilton this year. Sonics (@sonicslv) 30th October 2019, 14:08. Matteo (@m-bagattini) 30th October 2019, 13:13. Hold the power button on the side of the TV down for 3-5 seconds. How can i add multiple screens for races, i only own F1TV Access at the moment (#NoCreditCard) If there's an option let me know pls. Detect a display. It’s like anything: we’ll get better at using it.”. Whether it’s technical design rules, tyre rules (compound uses), SC and VSC rules, driving penalties, qualifying structure, grid penalities – a ton of stuff, usually altering in some aspects every season, that the TV coverage now feels the need to explain to viewers. You can choose an annual or monthly subscription to F1 TV Pro, and it’s all available on your favorite devices, including Amazon Fire Tablet, Android, Apple iOS (Apple TV coming soon) and Roku. Matt Jones (@mattj) 30th October 2019, 16:00. How many laps to pass and all that.”, This is a reference to the second AWS graphic, a visual tool used by commentators to enlighten audiences: “We told them ‘we’re not trying to steal that when they get there. Got a potential story, tip or enquiry? It’s very difficult for us on a world feed to show a build-up to a battle because hopefully there’s a lot of battles going on. F1 is complicated, I get that. August 11, 2020 5:00 AM, By RACER Staff | The grip he has compared to optimal? Choose from two plans (annual or monthly), each available in specific countries. And let’s not even discuss qualifying. I always wished they incorporated it more for quali – much better than the side by side, stop, talk, play, stop, talk, play method Sky is currently using with Ant on the Skypad. […], F1 TV Pro: See more, know more with a 7-day FREE trial - Florida News, All contents copyright © 2021, Racer Media & Marketing, Inc. All rights reserved. Sonics (@sonicslv) 30th October 2019, 14:31. Another aspect to this is it can highlight to the commentators and the broadcast crew which cars are worth following and which ones you could ignore. Thus gathering this data is a must. – undercut/overcut: The only relevant graph with relatively precise information. You know, where he’s complaining about his tyres. – Speed in corner: A car passing a corner at a certain speed does not bring me any useful information, then you have another one and you know: “Hamilton on lap 32 did 146Km/h on corner X, while Vetel on lap 56 did 139 Km/h in the same corner” What info does this give to you? Racer Media & Marketing, Inc., 17030 Red Hill Avenue, Irvine, CA 92614, 949.417.6700 Any extras you add to your SLING Orange service will be included in your … I just solved F1 2016 to run 3 screens with perfect resoultions and huds all centred into main screen. You will get this popup: You can now select either Duplicate- if you want the TV to display exactly what you see on your laptop screen. Kerry Maxwell (@kerrymaxwell) 30th October 2019, 15:54. Most people today watch on large wide-screen TVs, so plenty of room, plus we’re all familiar with games stuffed with information. They are driven by money not the DNA of F1/normal sporting logic! @mattj Apologies there was a code fault which was obscuring a few paragraphs for some viewers – that’s been fixed now. The information (‘facts’) I like, such as the time gaps, tyre use etc. On the topic of a graphic I’d like to see… if they could give us comparisons of corner entry speed, apex speed and exit speed, my appreciation for AWS stuff would rise a little. And the data that for example shows that a driver will catch the person in front is based on the laptimes at that time and assume that the driver will drive those times all the time. As any F1 racer knows, overall balance of the car is a crucial ingredient of success, and so it is with broadcasting the fastest sport on earth. I reckon that these guys all know each other so well that out-braking, out-accelerating each other is one of the few secret weapons that they have whilst racing. I try to ignore it, but that’s getting increasingly difficult. F1 TV is a digital streaming platform run by Formula One that can help get you inside pit lane and access loads of real-time data and historical content. Using the example above, 70% of the tyres are still good, so what’s to stop Amazon Web Services from predicting how that will affect braking, cornering, and acceleration? Crofty was at pains to say a lot of work had gone into the calculations and graphics, but nothing explained, so I’m going to take it at face value and totally ignore. Specifically the left hand column of driver order and time gap. Recall Nico Hulkenberg saying his tyres were on their last legs when Daniil Kvyat crashed into him? Add in real-time telemetry, live driver maps and tire usage history, and you’ve got access to more data than the teams on the pit wall. I don’t get it. #10 The tire graphics are terrible too. Helmet cams in races, static cameras on bridges in the 1990s. Even Assetto Corsa dropped it for Competizone, as the Unreal engine doesnt support it. You don’t need a graphic to tell if there’s a 90% change of overtaking, viewer can see that. A number appears on the screen of the display it's assigned to. I’m not going to explain each parameter. It sounds like this post is more “old man yells at cloud” again, Stephen Crowsen (@drycrust) 30th October 2019, 23:21. @minnis: Spot on. My biggest concern is not really the added graphics, it’s the fact that we see way too often the wrong cars being focussed on and we hear to often unrelated nonsense from the commentary team. But at the same time I also play a lot of video games (racing and otherwise) so these types of HUD feels fairly normal. But it’s like everything these days…those IT people are just convinced that they know better than us, what we really want…so they will give it to us and there is no other choice. That striking distance goes under same umbrella. Dewald Nel (@ho3n3r) 31st October 2019, 7:37. I never underestimate a gamers belief that something that looks good has no need to be accurate or of use. We gave it a little bit more detail [for the Mexican race] and there’s probably more coming to this graphic as well over probably next few three races into next year.”. if you have a graphic that shows that hamilton is going to end up 2 seconds ahead of bottas after the stop then you have lost that bit of unknown of seeing lewis in the pits and then wondering where he’ll rejoin the track. I have no doubt that most of the data displayed on screen meets all of the above critera for the teams. An F1 TV Pro subscription also includes comprehensive coverage of of F1’s future stars battling in Formula 2 and Formula 3, as well as the always-entertaining Porsche Supercup one-make championship. The interviewee actually explains it in the article. I think the answer is “Yes”, or at least “Yes, let’s try this out” (but I do want to see the race). ian dearing (@riptide) 30th October 2019, 17:12. @geemac I get what you’re saying about explaining the rules, but Formula 1 does have a habit of changing them! F1 TV is a new subscription service that gets you closer to all the F1 action. If the teams don’t know what state the tyres are in going through the race, then how in the bloody hell is AWS going to know!?! I know the other option – we could just wait and see what happens. Which brings us to the ‘tyre’ graphic’, through which F1 seeks to visualise performance drop-off. No one explained what the territory or line break stats meant.They just call it and that’s the way it should be. The matter was clarified during a subsequent meeting between the two parties. @drycrust My overwhelming issue with the tyre graphic is that I cant see how it can be even remotely accurate. It essentially comes down to what story you’re trying to tell, if you have lap time, telemetry and team radio all at the same time the screen can get quite full,” says Young.