Since you’re an academic, Mr. Yagoda, I’m kind of surprised your entry on date formats fails to note that historians who write in English, regardless of nation, have been using the 12 April 2012 format for quite some time. Though possibly I’m a cult of one in thinking so. Er…. I wouldn’t say 9/11 is *purely* a reference to the date. The Modern Language Association (MLA) format for academic writing in the humanities specifies that dates be given as day month year; today would be 20 September 2014. Week numbers according to ISO 8601 and the convention of starting the week on Monday were introduced in the mid 1970s (DIN 1355). I gave up and adhere to the month/date/year style. We had a unified system of weights, measurement and distance. It is common to hear people say, for example, "I'm still free in week 36" or to have a company write "We expect delivery in week 49". *EUR => DD.MM.CCYY German grammar rules do not allow for leading zeros in dates at all, and there should always be a space after a dot. In the UK the emergency telephone number is 999 or so I thought. I often get the year of my birth wrong, writing the current year by mistake. So December 18, 2013, would be today. Hence, I’m exteremely skeptical of everything I receive these days about our current president.). ” In England, there is but one road to heaven. “As for driving on which side of the road, remember, please blame Napoleon!”. I NEVER write 04/05/15 for May 4th! I think the European form is elegant, and I don’t get any pleasure out of being in an exclusive club with Belize. Firstdayofweek specifies the first day of the week. The only downside would be that blog posts such as this couldn’t be written and enjoyed. The latter is beginning to become more popular, especially in IT-related work and international projects. 2012-09-04 is not ambiguous because there are no official standards that say YYYY-DD-MM. Use those. In colloquial speech, the 12-hour clock is also used in some places/countries. Even though I live in the US the Euro & ISO formats are more logically organized. Change it to M/dd/yy which is the US Date Format. BTW: I would guess far more than “over 1/2” of the US can’t tell if a Celsius temperature is hot or cold. For example… if you keep a folder full of family photos.. prefix them with the date. Dezember 1991") continues to use the little-endian order and the ordinal-number dot for the day of the month. Select a blank cell that you want to put the converted result at, enter this formula =DATE (VALUE (RIGHT (C2,4)), VALUE (MID (C2,4,2)), VALUE (LEFT (C2,2))), drag fill handle down to apply this … When is Christmas? Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Stones, gallons and yards will surely follow. Just the other day I was driving towards a knight who got pissy, veered to my right and lopped off my side mirror. When in Rome …do as the Romans do. *YMD => YY-MM-DD Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. The logical date part ordering and the metric system are objectively better than the alternatives even if you personally value tradition more than logic. But when giving the date in full, you can just as easily say July 4th 2012 as 4th July 2012, without its sounding in the slightest unnatural or affected. But when I’ve already got data that is in the US format EG: 6/12/2019 and want to change it to 12/06/2019 there seems no way. Just out of curiosity, Methos, how much do you weigh in kilograms? So frustrated. The European Data Format (EDF) is a simple and flexible format for exchange and storage of multichannel biological and physical signals. In case American’s aren’t aware, ‘telegram age’ means 100 years old. “No, because it’s on the 7th of August. European date vs. american date. With respect to the European and American date formats — and 24-hour versus AM/PM clocks — appeals to logic are very much beside the point. I suspect it’s the influence of the Department of Defense. of Califor…. (And no, you can’t first go to Google to convert stone to kilos — tell me right now.). These conventions have been widely adhered to by German calendar publishers since then. Excel always fails when the date contains a combination that … We’re talking about a language in which the vowels of the virtually identical words dough, slough, and tough are all pronounced differently. I want to be able to sort this column by date, and thought I could reformat the entries using the "format cells" function to show them in a … However, if you want to use a different format for the date, such as using periods instead of slashes (3.23.16), that’s easy to change in Windows’ settings. I don’t understand why 4/9/12 is ambiguous but 2012-09-04 isn’t. I do of course know it’s the emergency phone no in the US, whereas we use 999. Think about a lot of documents are the same way Year Month day or Day month year. The month is written in Roman numerals while the day is in Arabic numerals: 14.  VI. 1789 is 14 June 1789.”. Personally, I love it. But entirely logical once you get used to it. If they ping you in February for a March renewal you might suspect the date in the mail doesn’t indicate November. In Britain we tend to say the 25th of December. I’ve just been reading through the above for the first time. And now let’s discuss metric vs imperial and why the Brits drive on the wrong side of the road…. I send out a membership list … Numbers may be written with or without leading zero in Austria or Switzerland, where they are commonly only discarded in days when literal months are being used (e.g., "09.11. And Americans are not about to switch to the metric system or drive on the other side of the road. We SAY month-day (and if need be -year), thus we write mm-dd-yy or mm/dd/yy. Although of course a terrible event, it was quite funny that our UK media were miraculously saved from having to work out whether to follow the “9/11″ precedent when the London Underground was bombed in July 2005….. because the date – universally used since to signify the bombings – was in fact 7/7. And I wondered too if horses prefer to pass each other right to right side, thus on left side of road…in which case if wagons rode that way (for eons) why not cars? How can I change the date format to the desired format? For my checks, I write, as an example, 10 April 2012. In spoken language, the 24-hour clock has become the dominant form during the second half of the 20th century[citation needed], especially for formal announcements and exact points in time. I would have to think hard to know what those were was in archaic measures but then I was taught in metric from when I was in my early teens. It still baffles me that the USA uses a non-scientific temperature measurement system from Germany. Change date format in Google Sheets to another locale. In Prussia there are many roads, Each man must find his own way.”. Nobody would do this because everybody would say “there’s an order”! Even if I manually key in the date 06/02/2019 it's automatically change to 02/06/2019 again. The date order on the card was always Day, Month, Year. Also, I’ve noticed that when spoken, oftentimes news presenters will say a date in US format when referring to iconic date. In summary, the expiry date should be calculated from the date of release or in case the period between the date of production and the date of release exceeds 30 days, from the date … Sorry but a few countries write in neither month-day-year nor day-month-year. By default, Windows formats dates with slashes (3/23/16). Some goes for Taiwan’s 105/01/06 as their first year of the Minguo era was in 1911. YYYY-MM-DD is always the meaning when year is first (The logic behind this format is to read from most signifficant to least signifficant). Besides… so much stuff is gets digitized when the original writer never intended it. But I think that may be based on the precedent of saying “September 11th” rather than “11th September”. And oh yeah: where *did* we get our ridiculously complicated imperial measurement system? Thank goodness with unknowing wisdom the powers that be elected 11/11 to be Remembrance Day. Since portions of the population continued to use the old format, the traditional format was re-introduced as alternative to the standard yyyy-mm-dd format to DIN 5008 in 2001 and DIN ISO 8601 in September 2006 but its usage is restricted to contexts where misinterpretation cannot occur. I’m glad to give an explanation but I’m sure that people will object! ps. I came upon this topic after reading a covid-19 research paper referencing 07/02/2020 ….a future date according to my USA way of reading and writing dates. 14:51 or 14.51. They were all taught to date their school work dd/mm/yyyy. Yes, the Fourth of July is celebrates 2 days after Congress voted in favour of Independence from Great Britain. You need to go into the device's Settings app and set (or reset) the localization region format. … January 1st; ask someone his birthday and he’ll say month-day-year. There are so many things that our conservative party refuses to consider to change. I write the full name of each month (first) then the day and year, which has been working just fine my entire life. During the French Revolution, a decree of 1792 created a uniform traffic law, requiring traffic to keep to the “common” right. To me, the beauty of the European method is its progression of diminishing specificity with each increment of time: from day to month to year. …I also prefer comma-free Brit correspondence style. “Are you going to Dave’s party on July the 8th?” Here the organisation is closer to the US dating but with the year placed at the start, for example ‘2010/12/20’.”). Official EU documents still tend to use DD.MM.YYYY but one document specifies the use of ISO 8601: "Dates should be formatted by the following format: YYYY-MM-DD."[1]. Official EU documents still tend to use DD.MM.YYYY but one document specifies the use of ISO 8601: "Dates should be formatted by the following format: YYYY-MM-DD." The European, Asian, and American date orders are all internally consistent and therefore both equally logical and equally arbitrary. When I write a check, that is how I place the date. I once asked an English acquaintance and she told me she didn’t know — she only knew how much she weighed in stone. New York Times outliers: “maths,” “trainers” and “mate”, http://www.usa.gov/Topics/Independence-Day.shtml, http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/scan.htm, Cách viết ngày tháng ở các nước khác nhau trên thế giới, “What we were able to provide our young men during an abbreviated season was a little bit of special”—U. I frequently use up so much of my attention on the month-day/day-month puzzle that I have none left for writing the correct year. Makes perfect sense too. Though perhaps that’s not an option for you. How do you sort dates? Days and Hours are more critical than Years and Seconds. Over time, I have come to favour the IBM date format standards used on the iSeries computers where the format code specifies both the order of fields and the delimiter: If an American writes May 3, 1988 as 05/03/1988 but an Italian writes May 3, 1988 as 03/05/1988 who's to know what's what! As a European Norm, CEN and CENELEC member states are obligated to adopt the standard as national standard without alterations as well. The European Committee for Standardization (CEN) and European Committee for Electrotechnical Standardization (CENELEC) adopted ISO 8601 with EN 28601, now EN ISO 8601. So what? If this is the case, realize this is controlled outside of PostureScreen Mobile on the device OS itself. But that’s just me… There was even a letter this week to our local rag bemoaning the lack of anything formal…which there is and I believe its the ISO standard yyyy-mm-dd. In Chinese, this pattern is extended further such that 1:30 pm is read as afternoon, one-thirty. American colonists favoured the monthly format, while the British Empire drifted towards the European style of dd-mm-yyyy. There is only one correct way to write a date, year then month then day. The status quo exerts a powerful pull to be sure but at least the British are making an effort. Oracle Databases also default to 12-APR-2012, which is kinda interesting for an American country. There is much more to be said but I’m trying to concentrate on the question! My intuition would put the number at 3/4 *at least.*. The logic shifts (and logically so) depending on what is most relevant in terms of our daily work. In Continental Europe, driving on the right is associated with France and Napoleon Bonaparte. dd/mm/yyyy format is used … The most significant digits come first, not last! Before the Revolution in France, in different Departements, people used to drive on different sides of the road. As for Fred, that’s nearly 300 years old and irrelevant. Applying logic in encoding data nurtures critical intelligence. MM/DD/YY instead of DD/MM/YY can anyone please advise? So there you have it: one document, one country, two different date notations. … December 25th (12/25); New Year’s Day? Elected in sense of choosing, which they did do knowingly but I’m sure with no thought of date formats. Any thoughts? I have looked at the main UK dailies and they seem pretty evenly split on their usage (as they are, incidentally, on -ise/-ize: I always use -ize). Europe Blog notes, “The only countries that do not share the European date format in fact are the US, Philippines, Palau, the Federated States of Micronesia, Canada and Belize.” I used to fly to America a lot. If you ask a Brit, the will tell you that the emergency number in the UK 999, and they’d be right. (Call me picky, but hardly a day passes that somebody doesn’t send me an unprovable tall tale about this guy, in a claim that’s more often than not debunked in Snopes. We tend to think (as in most things) that we are doing it the “normal” way, but, Europe Blog notes, “The only countries that do not share the European date format in fact are the US, Philippines, Palau, the Federated States of Micronesia, Canada and Belize.”, (Interestingly, the blog goes on, the European Union and other international organizations do not use the European style but rather the “‘ISO 8601’ standard date format. Have you also been petitioning Her Majesty’s government for the creation of a British Academy to do away with this kind of “absolutely senseless” spelling? Frederick the Great’s comments on the Church of England apply an all cases. The standard separator in Germany (as laid down in DIN 1355, DIN 5008) was the dot. South Korea, Japan, and China are those countries, they write year-month-day. Years could be written with two or four digits; the century was sometimes seen being replaced by an apostrophe: "31.12. What a wonderful way to exercise the brain! In an effort to avoid international miscommunication, the International Standard ISO 8601 was created. I grew up with military parents so the European format is what I’ve used mostly in my life except in school where teachers would give me a hard time. In US, we enter date in Excel as the date format mm/dd/yyyy in generally, but in Euro, the date format usually is dd/mm/yyyy. Bendrix: Sam’s point, I believe, is that it’s more logical to go from smallest to largest — or, I would add, from largest to smallest, as per ISO 8601 — than it is to go both backwards and forwards as does the conventional US date style, which if followed for clock times would render your example of “the 12th second of the third minute of the fifth hour” as 03:12:05. I only use purely numerical formats when the reader is not North American. RELATED: How to Use Periods in Dates in Excel BTW, for those who use the time analogy, you hav it backwards. I’m so paranoid about forgetting to renew the couple of domain names I care about that I’ve authorized my provider to bill my credit card automatically when they’re due to renew. got them to use 6 april 2015. since it was a logical format and when it was imported to systems could be easily manipulated. I have seen “proper” Canadian colleagues use color and colour in the same sentence! STEP 2: Scroll to the very bottom, and select Change date and time formats. I have always used the dd.mm.yy format as this is what I was taught in school, however, and somewhat bizarrely my father who is fast approaching telegram age uses the mm.dd.yy format and always has done. But every ambiguous date format is to be avoided in all contexts. The locale is what presets your Google Sheets date format based on your region. But also remember that, thanks to India and other former colonies, as many people drive on the left as well as on the right. My wife just went on a first aid course and was told it’s now 112…… Creates a date value from a textual representation, text, following ISO 8601 format standard.An optional culture may also be provided (for example, "en-US").. Date.FromText("2010-02-19") // Date…